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24 May


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Will Kitchen Sage Save the World?

May 24, 2013 | By | No Comments

Maybe! Maybe not. But Kitchen Sage will deliver a message that we ALL can do better, we ALL can build each other up and that we all can do this with compassion, not righteousness.  I look forward to my next blog introducing our advisory board, but I thought that since it is Memorial Day Weekend, I would like to take pause to thank ALL those that have sacrificed so much so that we  could abuse the privilege of living in truly a free country. When I say ALL, I must clarify that those who shared in the hope of a better country and a better future.  From Rosie the Riveter to our Buffalo Soldiers, every color, creed, heritage, and gender that have all suffered and sacrificed to make America a country based on personal freedoms. Perhaps some have sacrificed more than others.

But who needs to keep score, when we are all going toward the same goal? We definitely need to know our history, our correct history, not propaganda. Realize that EVERYONE loves their children, EVERYONE wants to create a better future for their family and WE all want a better world . But sometimes we stumble, sometimes we fail, and frankly sometimes we get so lost that the way home seems too far away that we give up. That is when we as Americans  have the honor and privilege to help out our neighbor. We should not do this from righteousness, but from compassion. I have stumbled, oh I have failed(miserably!), and I have been so lost that if it wasn’t for my family, my friends, and my America I would still be searching for my Kitchen Sage.

Now that I have found MY Kitchen Sage, it is my absolute duty to pass it on to our children. I will assure them they will fail! I will tell them “You will probably cut yourself with a big sharp knife, you will probably slip, and you will definitely burn something!”-“But you will also learn to use a knife properly, you will learn to clean as you go(especially if you spill bacon grease on the floor!), and you will definitely know what a burning stew smells like so you can turn off the heat, and transfer to another pot to save it!” I would be doing a disservice to them and our community if I told them otherwise.  We will breed a county of losers if everyone wins all the time!

Since I am gushing with an ideal of a better world, I would love to share with you an email that I just received from a dear friend of mine, and my (expanded and edited) response.

Wow this is my kind of customer service!

GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, a Christian nation, land of the free and home of the brave.

How may I help you?

Press ‘1’ for English.
Press ‘2’ to disconnect until you learn to speak English


And remember only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ 

And the American Veteran.


One died for your soul,


The other for your freedom.


If you agree. Keep it going

2013 IS HERE 
A Nation of Sheep – Breeds a Government of Wolves! 

I’M 100% for PASSING THIS ON!!! 
Let’s Take a stand!!! 

Borders: Closed… 
Language: English only…

Law . . . NOT shiria ! ! ! anywhere in these borders ! !

Dearborn, Mi. included !
Culture: Constitution and the Bill of Rights!!! 
Drug Free: Make a drug screen mandatory for anyone on welfare and/or food stamps! 
NO freebies to Non-Citizens! 

We the People are coming 

Only 86% will send this on. 
“Should be a 100%”. What will you do?

This is my response:

My Friend!
Cut this shit out!  This stance is horrible for any business and inappropriate! We are America, and as Americans we have the absolute right to be who we are free of judgement and discrimination from ANYONE!
This absolutely stinks of racism. As a Catholic with Jewish and Muslim heritage and family, this really hurts my feelings. Jesus never set foot on our land, and our forefathers built a hope of a new land on a promise that we are ALL GOD’S children.
It’s the same god, different marketing reps! As a small business, I would think that you most of all would want everyone to share in the American dream.
The only correct thing about that greeting is “home of the free”
America is NOT an exclusive Christian country, it is INCLUSIVE COUNTRY for everyone. Just as Jesus was inclusive of all tribes, man, woman, child alike. Sinners and the just.
As far as immigration, yes we need work permits so not just our mexican neighbors can come here safely and have the opportunity to become part of our melting pot! Could you imagine a world with out SALSA? Get your head in the right spot!   And by the way, SE Habla Espanol, not because I have to, but I am educated and happen to ADORE all hispanic culture! Maybe if we all had to learn a second language we could learn about other viewpoints not to mention show a little respect.
By the way, the BRAVE stand up to bullies like this when they are ignorant,hurtful and mean. So if we are home of the Brave, it is time to put up or shut up!
Stop watching FOX and other bias news sources, you sound brainwashed.   The only way to drive American into a better future for ALL is down the middle of the road, not to the far LEFT OR RIGHT, we will only end up in the ditch if we do that!
I love you and your wife! But already these posts are making me and our friends concerned.
Would you rather be righteous or compassionate? My Jesus was ONCE righteous, on the Temple Mount. What did that get him? He learned that violent behavior only creates anger and more violence The rest of his life he lead with compassion and love. That’s why he is my shepherd.
I hold you and and your wife so dear to my heart because of your amazing hearts and actions! These words DO NOT reflect the people I know. So at least for our friendship, stop saying things like this within my earshot.
Give pause this MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND to all those that sacrificed to uphold the ideal that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.

With Great Taste!


I know this blog seems like an idealist rant, but we really need to teach OUR children that sometimes you don’t have to fit in when you are meant to stand out.  I think that those that treat America’s GREATEST asset of diversity like a liability, live a life less full and rich.  Really, they are enslaved to their own righteousness.

So to my friends that wrote this email and think by sending it out like a chain mail letter that they are doing good, I recount the Haggadah:

Until all of us are free, we are all enslaved.

Feel free to respond, and lets be a part of the 86% that share why this mentality does NOTHING to build a better America, this only serves the few with their own agenda.

Freedom from Ignorance, Freedom from Hunger, and Freedom to be YOURSELF!
Happy Memorial Day weekend, Cook Hard with the people you love!
Don’t worry, less ranting and more Kitchen Saging coming soon!


17 May


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I am an IDIOT!!

May 17, 2013 | By | No Comments

So I have to tell you, after all this blogging, all this work, all this relationship building and outreach for Kitchen Sage, I am an IDIOT!

Now get this, I am NOT complaining, only explaining!  Financially I have been footing the bill for this vision!  I love it, I am cool with it, and we are rocking the in-kind donations for the build out for the new academy!! But that doesn’t get me the other materials and support I really need right now!

And seriously, my accountant Ginny is going to kill me if I put one more cent into Kitchen Sage!

However, I am trying to make that quantum leap right now from TFG,LLC to Executive Director, Kitchen Sage! So I am doing both, TFG to not only pay my bills, but Kitchen Sage’s as well.  Kind of tough, really tough! So why does it take an interview with one of my future students to present me with the big duh?


Not only did this kid get into my first session, she is now on my junior leadership board!  As I was showing her all the killer stuff we are going to afford her, she asked me how much was the program? Duh, its free! The next question, “how are YOU going to pay for it chef Tommy”? Of course my optimism spoke up and said grants, fundraisers, chef dinners…etc! Then she says, how much have you raised? I told her I am raising awareness and friends right now. Then she looks at me like I took the short bus to school and says,”Uhm, don’t you have like all these friends already?”, “why don’t you have all your social media friends click on the donate button? I am sure everyone would give you at least 10 bucks!”

Thank you Aaliyah, for being my first Kitchen Sager, For being the first junior on my advisory board, and for smacking me in the face with a killer idea! I think you gave me my first ask!

tommy-in-kitchenSo who’s in?!

Oh and Thank you in advance and being a part of my first ask!!


Executive Director KITCHEN SAGE!!! (soon full time!)

16 May


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Sometimes a “NO” turns into a better “YES”!

May 16, 2013 | By | No Comments

I think we all know by now that Kitchen Sage is putting me into some unfamiliar waters. However, the cool thing is that they are not unchartered!  The main thing that I want to impress upon our students that if first you don’t succeed, try harder! My setbacks and failures are only going to prove to be brilliant models for our course study!

I was given an opportunity (gift!) to write and present my Kitchen Sage to a foundation offering grants. Lets see, how many grants have I written in my life, oh that would be none! But I jumped into the opportunity, realizing that the chances were slim and that I likely wouldn’t receive any money.  I think a lessor person would probably turn down the opportunity because of the intimidating task.They may even hire someone with experience in hopes of getting a better chance for a return on their investment. I want everyone to know  that I am doing Kitchen Sage for selfish reasons too. I want to learn to teach, I want to learn how to solicit funds from other than my parties and friends, and I want to teach our kids that the relationships you form dictate your success in life.  It was the relationship with this person that gave me the chance to voice my passion and intent.  So I figured why would I even attempt to express my passion through a third party grant writer?

So I wrote and Presented!

Grant writing..they seemed to like it, maybe a B-? Presentation, probably a C-. Effort and the ability to learn …A! I know it may sound weird that I was so excited to put in hours of effort with no return financially(at least not this year) but again, not everything is about the money.  The thing that really amazed me is that the person who gave me the opportunity in the first place, didn’t just send me a letter. She took time out her day to meet with me and tell me why those a different direction. That means more to me than anything, plus……..

Her presentation of “No” turned into a “YES” when I asked her to be on my advisory board! See everyone knows that success comes from failure. With my friend now on my board, I feel like I have taken Kitchen Sage to a new level. Learning to communicate effectively to new groups or demographics is what I need. Combining from what I learned about a message and how to convey it from my Design for Good team I was already swimming towards mainland and now a have a friend with a boat!

And the BEST part, now we have Soroya Pierre-Vanartsen on our advisory board!! This is worth more than ANY grant!  Thank you for sharing my vision and passion Soroya!!

So if you feel really bad that I didn’t get the money, feel free to invest in Kitchen Sage via paypal, we could use some cheese!


14 May


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Tommy, time to get get schooled by GRPS!

May 14, 2013 | By | No Comments

With everyone pointing the finger at GRPS and judging them, I decided to give the finger to myself!!  So I asked David Allen to introduce me to his friends at GRPS. I really believe that I could be a part of a solution, not the problem and I wanted them to know I was in their corner. I have to tell you I was a bit intimidated by the whole thing.  Were the powers at be going to recognize my sincerity behind Kitchen Sage, or look at my ideas as a completely ridiculous chef with crazy hopes of Home Economics returning to our culture?  Worst yet, would they think that I was stepping on their toes or just being another judgmental idiot. I really needed the KITCHEN SAGErs, Jan and David to be with me in this meeting, so as to translate my intent. So in the middle of all the JuiceBall fun, we get an appointment with Ron Gormin, John Helmholt, and Paul Baumgartner.

Man was I overwhelmed with the response!  Not only did they like the idea, but they wanted to figure out how they could be a part of it!  So we figured this relationship could start off with Tommy sitting down with Paul Baumgartner, the MAN that heads up GRPS nutrition center.  First thing, lets get Tommy over to the GRPS Nutrition Center ASAP to see what Paul does for a living. This made perfect sense and I have to tell you that it was absolutely inspiring what was going on there!

Remember when you were a kid and mom was infamous with the way she snuck veggies into your food?  Well everyone, here is Paul Baumgartner!  Not only does he utilize some of the best systems in PREPARING food for OUR children, he is inventing those systems along the way. All the while using fresh ingredients and emphasizing local products as well.  For the love of God, he is sneaking broccoli into the Mac and Cheese! He is utilizing MICHIGAN beans into our kids’ diets because they are not only local, cost effective, but they also pack a nutritional punch.  The first day I met Paul, he was figuring out how he could rinse off the beans in the soup kettle for ease and efficiency. I would love Jamie Oliver to see his operation, he would cry like a baby(for a good reason!).  If anyone knows Jamie, give him a shout out he would appreciate all the good stuff here in GR!

Paul and I had so much in common and he has such a wealth of knowledge, all for the asking!  I love the fact that he doesn’t mince words!  My vision was all about accountability, a sense of urgency, and participation. Paul is making me own it! His mentorship has propelled my vision so fast and far, sometimes I need to catch my breath. From the actual curriculum, to understanding my audience, Paul is waking that love of education that has been so dormant in me for so long. There is so much more to write about Paul, but we are in the throws of designing and negotiating for our new space! In the mean time, Paul and GRPS Nutrition Center is the the official temporary Kitchen for Kitchen Sage!

Why wait for the bricks a mortar? Why can’t we start educating our kids immediately? How about July 8th, 2013?….That just happened!

Thank you GRPS for Paul Baumgartner! You are definitely my FIRST choice!!

John Helmholt



08 May


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DFG, More Like Designed For Greatness Thank YOU Again AIGA!

May 8, 2013 | By | No Comments

You know, sometimes one’s appreciation is revisited when you realize how much a group of great people have added to your life, passion, and vision.  NEVER forget, that saying “THANK-YOU” again NEVER hurts! In this case, just in case you didn’t listen to my WJRW rant of thanks with Dave Jaconette, just take a peek!  Thank you again Gwen O’Brien, Tom Englesman, Matt Fouty, Tyler Wayner, Terri Spaulding, Rachel Hyde,Karin Lannon, Betsy Bloom,Nicole LaFave, Mike Gorman, Jon Czeranna, and Craig Cockerill, who came in to be the official KITCHEN SAGE WEBMaster!

By the way, ALL these guys have helped out after the weekend!! Because they are Designed for GREAT!! Check out what they did in 60hrs!!(For FREE!)


08 May


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You Get that Sage Means Wise Right?

May 8, 2013 | By | No Comments

And Sage is what we needed if my vision was going to be a reality.  I needed two more board members that could help me define my intent, because that is the first thing you need to do is define what you are trying to achieve.  Not only did I need definition, but I also needed translation!  Everyone that has met me will tell you that sometimes I get off point!  (oh a butterfly!….)

I first looked to Jan Schwartz Fonger.  Jan and I worked on several projects and had a riot on each one(her wit is sharper than any knife in my kitchen!).  Jan actually helped me with the paperwork to start off Kitchen Sage! She was real.  Not to bring in the Jewish thing, but she totally reminds me of my wicked smart sister Kathleen who converted years ago. Kathleen’s in-laws are a Seinfeld episode! I have been to 17 passovers as chef and family and it is the highlight of my year.  When we do the seder, the part that strikes me to my core is this:  Unless ALL of us are free, NONE of us are free.  Free from ignorance, free from hunger, free from selfishness. These words have woven themselves into my fabric, ALL of us! We are one race with many cultures.  Why do we take our greatest asset as a race and treat it like our greatest liability? It breaks my heart when we justify our sinister actions through our faiths.  If it is one thing that I have realized since my family has such a diverse belief system that, ITS THE SAME GOD! Just different MARKETING REPS! We are all one! So with Jan it made all too perfect sense. I wanted, no needed some of that Old Jewish wisdom from a not so old lady if Kitchen Sage were to embrace ALL of Grand Rapids. I put on my Catholic Guilt look and she joined immediately!!

Ok, people are going to talk!  The last choice for a board member had to be a man!  I needed some testosterone other than me.  I had to make sure this guy could keep up with the ladies!  Also I needed a guy that had no other agenda than to make Kitchen Sage a reality.  He had to be passionate about food and already tied into my neighborhood. I knew I needed David Allen.  You can’t swing a frying pan without touching some non-profit that David hasn’t touched.  And a golden touch it was!  Thats really how David and I met and it happened to be in his kitchen which had all the markings of a chef. His passion for education, his neighborhood, and food was the trifecta for KS. The only problem, his wife(and for good reason!)  David always is involved, whether its leading kids from his church, to building better neighborhoods, the guy gets around! I knew Donna was a saint, but ANOTHER project for Dave?  But I also knew I could play the “I did your daughter’s wedding!” card just in case.  Without hesitation David said “Yes” and in the same breath,”Donna’s gonna kill me” Don’t worry kids, David is safe and sound, Donna loves Kitchen Sage, and the sun still shines!  About 2 seconds after my “lobbying” David had set up a meeting immediately with Paul Baumgartner head of GRPS Culinary, along with John Helmholt, and Ron Garmin, the Three Amigos of GRPS! Because in all reality, GRPS WAS my choice I wanted to get them on board first. I was so sick of all the negativity towards my school system, the blame was on me, how can I be a part of the solution?

logo_placeholderJohn Helmholt


New challenge:”How in the world am I gonna sell this to GRPS, are they going to take me seriously?”………

06 May


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A NOT-SO-NEW Hope. Schooling Kitchen Sage!

May 6, 2013 | By | No Comments

It seems that the first question I am presented with when it comes to the new culinary leadership academy is “How old do you have to be to be in the program”.  The answer is always round about because even though the criteria is really 16, I reserve the right to include that kid that is ready for Kitchen Sage despite their age. Why would anyone ever want to hold back a kid from learning?

With this idea, we came up with Kitchen Sage’s 10(young)1’s! I love the idea of outreach to other great programs like Blandford Nature Center and the Grand Rapids Children’s Museum.  Why not reach out to our future “Kitchen Sagers”?!! And you know what happened the first time I reached out to give, I got 10 fold back!

Last Friday I was asked to give a quick demo on how to cook wild mushrooms in front of the students at the Blandford Nature Center.  What a gift.  These kids have it GOING ON!  The first thing I noticed when I pulled up, these kids were outside!  Running, exploring, being a part of the ecology, not chained to a desk learning about it!  These kids were sharp, polite, and down right impressive.  Really the most impressive thing was the presentation that Mary Jane Dockery gave the students with a slide projector(circa 1960?)!  My heart skipped so many beats with the way she inspired and interacted with the students.  It was not because she had some high tech presentation, it was her passion for our planet that kept us all hanging on her words.  I know that if I can be half the educator she is, Kitchen Sage could be an such a positive impact someday as her Blandford Nature Center has been to our city!

Chef Chad’s take on the program was witnessing how mushrooms were taught encompassing not just a desk in a classroom, but in a round table format that lead to a medium with paint, then finally culinary. Talk about a viewpoint from every angle!

Another thing that really impressed me was the way these kids interacted with me.  I really believe they were more mature! I mean some of these kids I already knew, but to see them in the learning environment afforded to them was wicked smart and made me feel like I was the student!  These kids not only had a grasp of the material, but they were all to happy to share their knowledge! I need to inspire like this if KS was going to have the same impact on our city.  Also, EVERY kid was healthy, full of energy! Time to pry into the secret of Blandford’s success!  The cool thing was that its NOT a secret.  Nurturing is not a higher science. Nurturing is inclusion, instruction, inspiration, and a call to action. Thank you Blandford! I think every future teacher needs to spend an afternoon you!  By the way, here’s a clip!

Be sure to notice how the kids serve and interact!!



03 May


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Who would be just crazy enough to…..KITCHEN SAGE!

May 3, 2013 | By | No Comments

The one thing about working with so many non-profits, you get a great sense of what type of boards are out there.  For Kitchen Sage, I knew in my heart that the less board members the better.  I am not what you call “Politically Correct”, I feel sometimes that the politics have a funny way of being a disservice to the people. Kitchen Sage was not going to be for everyone, even with its “All Inclusive Heart”.  Kitchen Sage has to be a call to action, NOT an entitlement.  I wanted my students to have investment upfront, to give me a sense of their sincerity.  I feel that we are breeding a country of losers if everyone is a winner!  Everyone needs to embrace their failure, if true success is to be achieved.

Here is another cool thing about what I do for a living: I have learned that relationships are the true success of any life or the life blood of a business. So what a great place to start!  Who do I know that would have this vision? Next, who understands my intentions and would be there to protect them.  “Holy scnikees!  What on earth am I thinking??”

Please stop for a minute and think about what I am putting on the line here!  Dave Kantor and Wendy Wassink made this perfectly clear when they helped me design the first JuiceBall.  What if something went terribly wrong? My name was on the line, and that was just for a birthday party!

Now I wanted to create an after school program to mentor teens full time.  Basically I want to give teens in my neighborhood big BIG sharp knives!!  I will have to put everything into Kitchen Sage to make this a reality. My name, my reputation, my life savings, even my credit cards are on the table!

I think I need an attorney!

So who should I ask to mentor me with all the complexity that is the law?  There was no shortage of options for me since I have fed a great number of GREAT attorneys.  What attorney would understand my vision the best and at the same time be watching my back? I knew that my pick for a board member had to guide me but also carry the vision further.  Allison Horton Sleight was the obvious choice.  She has this very nurturing aura about her, with that a dragon-lady side that you just know you would never want to get on! Plus she was a go-getter.  In my experience with Allison, her resourcefulness proved so beneficial that I knew right away she would not only protect me personally, but my passion for educating our youth as well.  When she said “of course” I swear you could hear my deep sigh of relief from a mile a way!


Now who do I know that understands financial matters? Someone that gets me and my “CRAZY”? Duh! Anicia Latter.  Not only does she have a background with great financial institutions under her belt, her philanthropy resume is wicked awesome!  To top things off, not only does she have a perfect attendance record for JuiceBall (like Allison), she has stepped in to produce the past three!  She has this uncanny way of roping me in!  Anyone that can handle a chef that says out loud “I think we should build a tower in the middle of the JW Marriott this way when I am the Hunch Back of JuiceBall, I can see the Franciscan Sisters from Lowell do their medieval fashion show better!” would totally be up for my board.  Not only is Anicia used to handling such outlandish goals, she does it with a grace that is almost regal. Anicia thank you for being in my world, oh and saying “YES!!”.

Now then, I knew I needed two more board members and I knew I wanted them to put the SAGE in Kitchen Sage! I also wanted two people that I not only respected, but that I knew in their hearts they wanted to better Grand Rapids.  Also I wanted the future of my board to all be young at heart, fun, and deadly honest with TOMMY!  I had some ideas who would fit this bill…………..

The HunchBack of JuiceBall and The Fransciscan Sisters!

The HunchBack of JuiceBall and The Fransciscan Sisters!

01 May


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In High School I had a hard time getting into the parties, Now……

May 1, 2013 | By | No Comments

If you have never had the opportunity to attend one of my parties, especially one of my chef dinners I would like to explain to you what I do for a living. Maybe then you could get a glance of my world and why I want to share my life mentoring our kids on a much bigger scale than the monthly “kids in the kitchen” type programs.

From an early age I figured if I threw the party, I was sure to get in!(feel free to reference the image of Michael C. Hall in SIXTEEN CANDLES!).  And let me tell you, from Catholic Central to Aquinas College, I did pretty good!  Now of course I would never condone this behavior for the underaged, but that behavior really started to turn for the good in college. My friends and I would throw parties that were not only out of this world, but also did some real good for the community.  Now that this passion has been honed so sharp that it provides not only countless “Tommy’s Package” donations across the country but a community outreach than makes a chef’s life more meaningful as well.  With anything in life, one must prioritize and did I ever on my 40th birthday.  The first real effort was the JuiceBall, buying juice boxes for our city’s own KFB.  What a great start!  But now not only do I want to give out a fish, I also want to teach our kids not only to fish, but to ultimately own the pond!!

So I HAVE to tell you about this weekend!  My friend Laurie Beard of Founder’s Trust bid and won “Tommy’s Package” at a charity to have me cook in her home.  What she failed to tell me was that the whole family was coming in town to celebrate her major recognition from GVSU, which meant an exhausting weekend of hoopla and speeches for her! I was chosen to be a part of this…pretty cool huh?! Well being a gentleman, I never discuss what goes on with Tommy in the home, but this thank-you email gives you a glimpse of what I do for a living, whether donation or paid, I only have one switch and if its on, it is ON!


Since your voice mail message was so hilarious, I thought I should email you mine since it too is very long!  There is a formal “Thank You” coming your way!  As far as your guests are concerned, please include them on this email and forward me their info so we can keep in touch!!
Your hoot and hollers made my week and demonstrated why my career and life are so fulfilled and why Kitchen Sage is an absolute must.  If our kids could experience a life so rich, maybe the things in life that glitter would prove less important!
On that note, this is all that was shoved in yer faces!!
Tommy’s Package!
For Laurie Beard!!!
Ensalada Antonini
Arugula, Shaved Parm, Pecan, Proscuitto,Truffle Oil
Trendy Mushroom Saute
Morels, Shitake, Oyster, and Crimini Mushrooms all in a Cognac cream
Bleu and Grape  Pizza
Curry Blackened Prawns
Crabbie Pattie Johnny Cake
Chipotle Aioli, Mango Salsa
Scallops and Bacon
with a Sweet Soy Finish
Saffron and Basil Risotto
Rosemary and Orange Salmon
Chipotle Quail
“Rich Girls’ Chicken Wings”
Parsley and Lemon Zest Lamb Chops
Cabernet Cherry and “Jeremy” Finish
Rosemary, Garlic, and Peppercorn aged Tenderloin of Beef
Danish Bleu and Tomato
Banana’s Foster
I was absolutely honored to cap off your awesome weekend! The awards obviously reflect your sincerity. GVSU must be crazy proud to have you as alumni! And to top it off, after a substantial donation to get me in your home, you added another substantial donation to my cause!  You are definitely Grand Rapids Laurie!  Thank you with all my heart! By the way, did you hire Greg Conway for his reputation and skill as a banker or as a ringer just in case Founder’s were ever to enter into an eating competition?!! The pleasure was all mine!
I hope this helps anyone with any questions, WHY KITCHEN SAGE?
(also the ladies love the Kitchen Sage!) Congrats Laurie!!